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	<title>Comments on: ColdPress Data Model Chosen</title>
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		<title>By: St. Louis Internet Marketing</title>
		<link>http://www.webdevkungfu.com/coldpress-data-model-chosen/comment-page-1/#comment-89550</link>
		<dc:creator>St. Louis Internet Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such a useful blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such a useful blog</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bryant</title>
		<link>http://www.webdevkungfu.com/coldpress-data-model-chosen/comment-page-1/#comment-89431</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry,

You say &quot;I had to resort to using cfquery and bypass DataMgr because I simply can’t use DataMgr to do what I needed.&quot;

So, what couldn&#039;t you do with DataMgr that you needed to do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry,</p>
<p>You say &#8220;I had to resort to using cfquery and bypass DataMgr because I simply can’t use DataMgr to do what I needed.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, what couldn&#8217;t you do with DataMgr that you needed to do?</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me wrong, I don&#039;t think DataMgr is risky.  I think picking DataMgr base on the fact that it will work across multi-DB can be a risky assumption.  

I tried using DataMgr to implement a rather simple OO blog app, but I remember I had to resort to using cfquery and bypass DataMgr because I simply can&#039;t use DataMgr to do what I needed.


I personally prefer using CF9&#039;s orm, but I guess that was not the goal for ColdPress to only work in ColdFusion 9.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I don&#8217;t think DataMgr is risky.  I think picking DataMgr base on the fact that it will work across multi-DB can be a risky assumption.  </p>
<p>I tried using DataMgr to implement a rather simple OO blog app, but I remember I had to resort to using cfquery and bypass DataMgr because I simply can&#8217;t use DataMgr to do what I needed.</p>
<p>I personally prefer using CF9&#8242;s orm, but I guess that was not the goal for ColdPress to only work in ColdFusion 9.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bryant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

Yes, you can certainly add in your own custom SQL. It is important to write SQL that will run on any database, however, if you want your app to remain cross-database compatible.

I do run into some situations of sufficient complexity that I abandon DataMgr in favor of cfquery, but in all of those cases I would have had to write a custom query regardless of the data access layer being used.

Thanks for the kind words on DataMgr, BTW. If you run into any issues, let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>Yes, you can certainly add in your own custom SQL. It is important to write SQL that will run on any database, however, if you want your app to remain cross-database compatible.</p>
<p>I do run into some situations of sufficient complexity that I abandon DataMgr in favor of cfquery, but in all of those cases I would have had to write a custom query regardless of the data access layer being used.</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words on DataMgr, BTW. If you run into any issues, let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.webdevkungfu.com/coldpress-data-model-chosen/comment-page-1/#comment-89410</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry / Steve

As I understand it DataMgr has a function that allows me to write custom SQL, so I think I should still be alright. 

Steve: Am I right on that?

All: Yes the name is insanely creative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry / Steve</p>
<p>As I understand it DataMgr has a function that allows me to write custom SQL, so I think I should still be alright. </p>
<p>Steve: Am I right on that?</p>
<p>All: Yes the name is insanely creative.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Bryant</title>
		<link>http://www.webdevkungfu.com/coldpress-data-model-chosen/comment-page-1/#comment-89407</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henry,

Why do you think DataMgr is risky? What do you think you would be able to do with another solution that you could not do with DataMgr?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry,</p>
<p>Why do you think DataMgr is risky? What do you think you would be able to do with another solution that you could not do with DataMgr?</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ho</title>
		<link>http://www.webdevkungfu.com/coldpress-data-model-chosen/comment-page-1/#comment-89404</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you used DataMgr before? I think it might be too risky to just pick DataMgr just like that.  Especially when your ColdPress project aims aims as high as being the CF&#039;s Wordpress.

I personally think DataMgr might not be a good choice down the road when you need more than just read/update/delete using the XML.  Then you&#039;ll need to write custom CFQUERY for all DB dialect you support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you used DataMgr before? I think it might be too risky to just pick DataMgr just like that.  Especially when your ColdPress project aims aims as high as being the CF&#8217;s WordPress.</p>
<p>I personally think DataMgr might not be a good choice down the road when you need more than just read/update/delete using the XML.  Then you&#8217;ll need to write custom CFQUERY for all DB dialect you support.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Ho</title>
		<link>http://www.webdevkungfu.com/coldpress-data-model-chosen/comment-page-1/#comment-89402</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess your Coldpress won&#039;t be very OO?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess your Coldpress won&#8217;t be very OO?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.webdevkungfu.com/coldpress-data-model-chosen/comment-page-1/#comment-89399</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note to the name &quot;coldpress&quot; I find in the CF community that just about every application written has the word &quot;cold&quot; or &quot;fusion&quot; in it.  

I think its great that you are writing a blogging application but the name &quot;could&quot; be something a little more original instead of wordpress err coldpress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note to the name &#8220;coldpress&#8221; I find in the CF community that just about every application written has the word &#8220;cold&#8221; or &#8220;fusion&#8221; in it.  </p>
<p>I think its great that you are writing a blogging application but the name &#8220;could&#8221; be something a little more original instead of wordpress err coldpress.</p>
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